Comments on: Can the ICC Weather the Economic Downturn http://inspector911.com/can-the-icc-weather-the-economic-downturn/331 Resources, Checklists, and Training for inspectors with NFPA and the ICC codes Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:46:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Milton Gregory Grew, AIA http://inspector911.com/can-the-icc-weather-the-economic-downturn/331/comment-page-1#comment-364 Milton Gregory Grew, AIA Sat, 23 May 2009 04:30:30 +0000 http://inspector911.com/?p=331#comment-364 I am concerned about the performance of the ICC. I have noticed a loss in technical expertise and representation in my region. My local chapter of the ICC has lost its discount on reselling publications. If ICC continues to show weakness I am concerned that NFPA, which has much deeper pockets, will take advantage and fill the void by promoting NFPA 5000 and demonstrating that they will not reduce technical resources needed by the jurisdictions. I hope that ICC is not taking their predominance for granted because they could lose it. I am concerned about the performance of the ICC. I have noticed a loss in technical expertise and representation in my region. My local chapter of the ICC has lost its discount on reselling publications. If ICC continues to show weakness I am concerned that NFPA, which has much deeper pockets, will take advantage and fill the void by promoting NFPA 5000 and demonstrating that they will not reduce technical resources needed by the jurisdictions. I hope that ICC is not taking their predominance for granted because they could lose it.

]]> By: mike toika http://inspector911.com/can-the-icc-weather-the-economic-downturn/331/comment-page-1#comment-328 mike toika Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:21:10 +0000 http://inspector911.com/?p=331#comment-328 I think Mark is right. These economic hardships are impacting everyone. Problem is, if we as code officials, or code councils, give in to the so called pressures of for profit organizations, like the home builders, do they lose site of the ultimate priority. Safe buildings, safe building practices, and the safety of the public that will be living, or working in those buildings. We need to remember people deserve nice homes. They do. But we, as public safety officials, and yes the ICC is a public safety organization, have to protect that public. We have created standards to protect the public. But when we need change, for-profit organizations start to take offense (residential sprinklers for example) and push. For what, not for the safety of the general public, but to create a better profit margin for themselves. The ICC, and all public safety organizations cannot lose sight of the fact that our main priority is the safety of all the residents, community we serve. I think Mark is right. These economic hardships are impacting everyone. Problem is, if we as code officials, or code councils, give in to the so called pressures of for profit organizations, like the home builders, do they lose site of the ultimate priority. Safe buildings, safe building practices, and the safety of the public that will be living, or working in those buildings. We need to remember people deserve nice homes. They do. But we, as public safety officials, and yes the ICC is a public safety organization, have to protect that public. We have created standards to protect the public. But when we need change, for-profit organizations start to take offense (residential sprinklers for example) and push. For what, not for the safety of the general public, but to create a better profit margin for themselves. The ICC, and all public safety organizations cannot lose sight of the fact that our main priority is the safety of all the residents, community we serve.

]]> By: Mark Spoo http://inspector911.com/can-the-icc-weather-the-economic-downturn/331/comment-page-1#comment-317 Mark Spoo Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:54:12 +0000 http://inspector911.com/?p=331#comment-317 The economic times of today have effected everyone. The ICC is no different. Remember the ICC in actuality is a publishing company. They rely on experts in the fields of code enforcement and prevention to provide the expertise at times by committee to write for their books, which I may add are not inexpensive. Also noted in this article it refers to a home builders association that asking the "hard" questions. The home builders are asking questions because they want ammunition to get things in the ICC code that do not like changed. Don't be fooled the home builders are hurting too. The home builders association only is impacted when the actual home builders fold. In my humble opinion we all need to take a collective deep breath. Without getting on a soapbox this entire economic situation will even out. It will take time and an immediate cure is not going to happen. When this is all said and done the ICC, the home builders, and other governmental and political agencies will still be here, fighting the battles that need to be fought. Take a breath it is springtime. Respectfully Mark Spoo The economic times of today have effected everyone. The ICC is no different. Remember the ICC in actuality is a publishing company. They rely on experts in the fields of code enforcement and prevention to provide the expertise at times by committee to write for their books, which I may add are not inexpensive.
Also noted in this article it refers to a home builders association that asking the “hard” questions. The home builders are asking questions because they want ammunition to get things in the ICC code that do not like changed. Don’t be fooled the home builders are hurting too. The home builders association only is impacted when the actual home builders fold.
In my humble opinion we all need to take a collective deep breath. Without getting on a soapbox this entire economic situation will even out. It will take time and an immediate cure is not going to happen. When this is all said and done the ICC, the home builders, and other governmental and political agencies will still be here, fighting the battles that need to be fought.
Take a breath it is springtime.

Respectfully
Mark Spoo

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